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Carl Hibbs
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Location: Haute Normandie - visitors welcome

PostSubject: Decauville in live steam from Accucraft   Mon May 25, 2009 10:10 am

I was looking at the German Accucraft website run by MBV (Lorenz) Schug.

Well some great news for the future is that they are planning to build a Decuaville.
Yes a real French live steam locomotive.

Accucraft Decauville

The downside is that is will be in scale 1:19 and primarily in 32mm gauge although 45mm is an option.

I have of course signed up with my expression of wish plus divorce papers in progress.

These Decauvilles were built in many sizes and gauges for use all around the world.

They are mostly famous for the 60cm gauge machines.
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Bearcastle



Location: Brie

PostSubject: Re: Decauville in live steam from Accucraft   Mon May 25, 2009 10:38 am

Look really nice.

Could be a start for live steam.

Just wonder about the price.

Carl is there a possibility to have a price (or approximatively a price), they talked about pre-order, but without an idea of the price it's difficult to go for it.

I will have to start to use my piggy bank and save all my penny if i'll go for it.


Laurent
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Carl Hibbs
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PostSubject: Re: Decauville in live steam from Accucraft   Mon May 25, 2009 10:53 am

No prices yet but as a guide I would look at this;

Sachsische Ik.

It costs 1,850€ without Radio Control. For a 020T Decauville the price may be cheaper I guess.

If (when) I buy one of these I will have to seriously sell some stuff. I think a lot of electric plastic will go on e bay.

And it will have definitely to be a big secret from you know who.....!
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Bearcastle



Location: Brie

PostSubject: Re: Decauville in live steam from Accucraft   Mon May 25, 2009 12:20 pm

Wink

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Carl Hibbs
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PostSubject: Re: Decauville in live steam from Accucraft   Mon May 25, 2009 6:25 pm

I had an e mail back today from Lorenz Schug.



"Hello Mr. Hibbs,

thank you for your interest. As soon as I have enough pre orders I can start production, but at the moment I could not tell you when this would be but I hope in a half year. As soon as I start it it will take about one year, that´s what Accucraft told me.

I calculate a price of 1900,- Euro for the 030 Decauville, basing on 100 units and actual costs.

Regards,
"
Lorenz Schug


To be honest I think that is a tad expensive for a Chinese made model. But...It's the first real French prototype and Accucraft (de) are not the same as Accucraft UK. IMO the wealth of detail and quality of build seem rather better on the German commissioned models.

A must have really for me. And still quite a lot of time for me to find a wealthy divorcee I love you queen
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mikeyh



Location: Dordogne France

PostSubject: Re: Decauville in live steam from Accucraft   Mon May 25, 2009 7:03 pm

Carl, whilst i have a guitar that cost more than a thousand pounds. I can't see why it would be neccessary to spend that much on a chinese steamer? i'm wondering if your previous idea of building different bodies for the edrig chassis could be a winner? the second loco on my wishlist would be a corpet louvret, but the thought of an actual French loco is extremely tempting!!!
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Carl Hibbs
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Location: Haute Normandie - visitors welcome

PostSubject: Re: Decauville in live steam from Accucraft   Mon May 25, 2009 7:40 pm

Yes, Mikey.

A dilema for many really and I have started a similar post on VML too.

Chacun son truc as they say.

Nearly 2k is a lot of dosh and would pay for a lot of needy things. But it's all relative. Some people wouldn't even flinch at paying that for a balmy beach bum holiday in El Paradiso resort somewhere. Not for me thanks I'll keep my big fat belly covered up in my garden with my trains.

I am passionate about French narrow gauge and here cometh something tangible to fulfill that.

In this case I regard it as a potential investment too if only a hundred are built - Chinese or otherwise they are possibly likely to appreciate in price and a valuable asset on my death - which could be quite soon if she finds out. Shocked

And yes I would have preferred a Corpet Louvet too. But if this is a success then who knows what may come out from Doncaster eventually.

The different bodies idea is one we discuss further over a few glasses of wine in few weeks time perhaps.... Laughing
Worsley loco works or other commercial brass etching comes to mind.
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Bearcastle



Location: Brie

PostSubject: Re: Decauville in live steam from Accucraft   Mon May 25, 2009 7:54 pm

Agreed, it's a lot of Euro, do you have to give something as a pre-order ?
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Carl Hibbs
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Location: Haute Normandie - visitors welcome

PostSubject: Re: Decauville in live steam from Accucraft   Mon May 25, 2009 8:52 pm

At this stage no Laurent.

Sometimes they ask later as production starts for a deposit maybe 20% and having dealt with Lorenz Schug in the past (nice man and speaks perfect English) he often gives a discount for early orders.

By saying you are interested to him at this stage is no obligation to purchase.

I have to stress that Accucraft.de has very little to do with Accucraft UK which is run by the Pearse family.

There are already two chaps on VML who have ordered and even at the price I think they will sell 'comme les gateaux chauds'. Wink
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Bearcastle



Location: Brie

PostSubject: Re: Decauville in live steam from Accucraft   Tue May 26, 2009 11:00 pm

I decided to go for it, i will start to save ( a lot ).
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Carl Hibbs
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PostSubject: Re: Decauville in live steam from Accucraft   Wed May 27, 2009 8:01 am

They're going fast.

Imagine if several of us buy one. What a great steam-up that will be together.

I might buy two an 020 and 030. If you're gonna rob the bank then you might as well do it big time! affraid
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mikeyh



Location: Dordogne France

PostSubject: Re: Decauville in live steam from Accucraft   Wed May 27, 2009 8:16 am

Now I've seen the price guide 030/1900 and 020/1300 euros I'm gonna go for the 020, not being tight but it will go round my bends better! Do I send an email? couldnt find anything on his site

Mikey
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Carl Hibbs
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Location: Haute Normandie - visitors welcome

PostSubject: Re: Decauville in live steam from Accucraft   Wed May 27, 2009 10:02 am

Yep, send that nice Lorenz Schug an e mail expressing your interest. Don't forget to specify 45mm gauge.
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mikeyh



Location: Dordogne France

PostSubject: Re: Decauville in live steam from Accucraft   Wed May 27, 2009 10:10 am

Thanks. Sent
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Carl Hibbs
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PostSubject: Re: Decauville in live steam from Accucraft   Wed May 27, 2009 11:29 am

1300€ (£1,135) is in my view a fair price for a quality 0-4-0 locomotive of a real prototype.

From Roundhouse for example.
This will buy you a 'Katie' (non prototype) with change for a couple of wagons.

The Linda, Blanche, Charles things cost over £1300
A Darjeeling 'B' will cost you over £1600
Manual cntrolled of course and you you do get those nice slot head screws included for free. tongue

The above locos were odd, unique or small batch productions.

Decauvilles (of many different types) were sold in thousands all around the world and many are still in revenue (commercial and tourist) earning service today.

Why has it taken so long for someone to wake up to this....mmmm ?
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mikeyh



Location: Dordogne France

PostSubject: Re: Decauville in live steam from Accucraft   Thu May 28, 2009 1:09 pm

Here they all are, lined up and waiting to be delivered to the members of CGT!



Mikey
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clive_t



Location: Portsmouth, England

PostSubject: Re: Decauville in live steam from Accucraft   Fri May 29, 2009 1:20 pm

Interesting, that looks very similar to something I saw at Amberley a while back (among other locos):

http://clivesrealrailways.fotopic.net/c302154.html

Can anyone confirm the stubby little green steamer is indeed a Decauville?

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mikeyh



Location: Dordogne France

PostSubject: Re: Decauville in live steam from Accucraft   Fri May 29, 2009 2:02 pm

Yes indeed Cive, no 1126 'Barbouillier' built in 1947!

mikey
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Bearcastle



Location: Brie

PostSubject: Re: Decauville in live steam from Accucraft   Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:33 pm

I think you will like this :

http://jpduval.free.fr/
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philkelly



Location: Vienne, France and Islington. London

PostSubject: Re: Decauville in live steam from Accucraft   Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:22 pm

Any chance of an electric one?

Phil
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