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Carl Hibbs
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Location: Haute Normandie - visitors welcome

PostSubject: Spanish Occre Tram build   Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:23 pm

A wooden kit from Spain by Occre. Available in the UK for around £50.
This is the Madrid version which I chose as it resembles slightly some the Paris tramcars.

The kit as supllied intended as a static model but motorising it is not difficult.
Mine was to be battery powered with a possibility of overhead pick up later.
All wood and fittings are supplied. Just glue paint and patience required for reasonable model.

You open the box and this is what you get. The main illustrated instructions were in Spanish with (in my case) a French supplement. These were adequate but there were some parts that I did differently from the text and sequence.



The sides need freeing from the sheets of ply and the windows cutting out from their tags. Laser cutting leaves small tags which hold the pieces in situ on the sheet. This is a tedious job. Care and safety are required with a sharp knife as the sides a quite thick.
The sides have a tumblehome which needs creating from flat ply. I soaked mine from the waist down in hot slightly soapy water for a few hours and gently bent them to shape.



The sides glue to ends, I used special thin white wood glue made by Bostik, (colle de blocage in France). This comes in small plastic bottles and is used for fixing small wooden fittings in real life. Elsewhere I used superglue.



A bit of fine filler on the sides to fill in a few imperfections although the wood quality is very good and generally smooth.



The rounded ends were made by flat strips of 5mm ply. These are pre-cut to width but you must cut to length. There is plenty supplied.
Again with some fine filler to fill the gaps.



Side view showing the body shape progressing. The roof frame is very flimsy at this stage and I was very lucky when I dropped mine!



First coat in primer and I’ve now done the clerestory part using some very nice hardwood strips. This is a loose fit to allow access to the interior later.
Don’t be shy with sanding! I used 200 then 400 grade for most of it then 1000 before final topcoats.

I‘ve also started the side frames. These are made up from hardwood strips and quite primitive whitemetal castings but with care they all fit okay.




This was my original start at motorising the passive chassis.



I was going add the motor later to a geared axle. These wheels at the moment are Bachmann but this was all to change after it was too flimsy and seeing Patrick’s Soller tram chassis.

So I came across this dismantled from a ‘Dickie’ train. This yielded a simple low voltage geared motor block.



And cleaned up would fit just about under the tram floor.



The wheels are now LGB which a truer and a better fit than the Bachman types.



Back to the body and some Humbrol red undercoat.




A good idea to try out the chassis too.



Final paint with Humbrol red gloss. The roof was made with strips of pre-cut hardwood pinned at the ends and glued. This was then varnished using exterior satin furniture varnish from the local DIY store, sanding between coats about 10 in all.





The brass rails were soldered up from solid rod from my stock as the supplied coil of brass wire was useless and their suggestion to superglue the horizontal rails was inept.





The working trolley pole was scratchbuilt from brass as the supplied static whitemetal affair was very primitive in the least.







There is some more to follow of the finished machine.

Please feel free to ask any questions.


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Carl Hibbs
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Location: Haute Normandie - visitors welcome

PostSubject: Re: Spanish Occre Tram build   Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:59 pm

Here's a few more pics of the conclusion.

Here we are almost finished. Front buffer, couplings and trolley pole to add.



View underneath showing 3.6v battery pack, fuse, switch and charging socket.



The destination box was scratchbuilt from plasticard and part of a CD case.
The white LED is 3.6v and the red LEDS are about 1.8v so are connected in series to each other and parallel to the white LED and main headlamp the opposite end to give a directional display.






Some views of the completed model.









In company with a Bachman tram
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David Grantham



Location: Midlands, England

PostSubject: Re: Spanish Occre Tram build   Wed Nov 26, 2008 9:16 am

Carl. what a magnificent and beautifully made model.

Very very nice.
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David Grantham



Location: Midlands, England

PostSubject: Re: Spanish Occre Tram build   Wed Nov 26, 2008 9:20 am

Now if someone made a similar open end balcony bogie matchboard coach with droplight windows I would be ecstatic.
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Carl Hibbs
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Location: Haute Normandie - visitors welcome

PostSubject: Re: Spanish Occre Tram build   Wed Nov 26, 2008 4:02 pm

You should have contacted Gecomodel before they closed.
They made them in resin.
I presume you're after 'CFD metre gauge types' that run on the Baie de la Somme for example

There are an increasing number of people doing laser cutting.
This is becoming more and more accessible and affordable and I too am looking at the cost and vability of a small CO2 laser cutter for thin wood and plastic in the long term future.

There are some small machines around for less than £2000.
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Bredebahn



Location: Rye, East Sussex

PostSubject: Re: Spanish Occre Tram build   Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:29 pm

Beautifully built - I must admit that if I am confronted with a box of wooden parts like that then it becomes a "tomorrow" job. I 've just returned from Prague though, and have developed a real liking for their fleet of Tatra bogie trams - really nice 60s feel to them and they ride really nicely.....
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MzB




PostSubject: Re: Spanish Occre Tram build   Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:54 pm

Time well spent ... pity to paint it, but at least there is some of that beautiful wood on show in places.

Shouldn't mind one of those kits myself.

Re: Tatra trams, I've started a new thread on East German trams in the Real Trains section.

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Stevelewis



Location: Buckley Nr Mold Nth Wales CH7

PostSubject: Re: Spanish Occre Tram build   Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:37 pm

That is VERY nice As a frequent visitor to Peurto Soller and passenger on the Ferrocarril de Soller its making me think!! Surprised
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Carl Hibbs
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Location: Haute Normandie - visitors welcome

PostSubject: Re: Spanish Occre Tram build   Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:53 pm

You chaps should see Patrick Ive's (Pjti) Soller tram from the same company (Occre) as mine.
His is all varnished wood and although not finished the last time of asking it was looking pretty good.

Eh patrick?
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pjti



Location: Galizano, nr Santander, Nth Spain

PostSubject: Re: Spanish Occre Tram build   Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:30 pm

Still working on it now and again Carl, but the basement is a bit chilly at pres so busy doing non model stuff. I'll try to mock it up again and get a pic.
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pjti



Location: Galizano, nr Santander, Nth Spain

PostSubject: Re: Spanish Occre Tram build   Sun Mar 01, 2009 4:34 pm

Just saw from the GR magasine adverts that Glendale Junction have OCCRE motorising kits for (from £35 - GBP's). And before you ask still no progress.
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Carl Hibbs
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Location: Haute Normandie - visitors welcome

PostSubject: Re: Spanish Occre Tram build   Sun Mar 01, 2009 4:38 pm

Take your time Patrick, something to look forward to. £35 is not too bad a price for a good quality motor unit.

I haven't done much lately either although I've just starting scribing a few bits of plastic today.
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pjti



Location: Galizano, nr Santander, Nth Spain

PostSubject: Re: Spanish Occre Tram build   Sun Mar 01, 2009 5:11 pm

Actually I just checked the site and it is Glendales own kit, they consider the Occre version as too expensive at £120. The double motor version would be good if one had trailers connected. It looks like the "chassis" is from laser cut wood - but nice prices !

For Battery Power (excludes battery box, batteries and speed controller)
£35.00

For Track Power
£40.00

Double Motor Version for Battery Power (excludes battery box, batteries and speed controller)
£45.00

Double Motor Version for Track Power
£50.00

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Carl Hibbs
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Location: Haute Normandie - visitors welcome

PostSubject: Re: Spanish Occre Tram build   Sun Mar 01, 2009 5:19 pm

They could have uses elswhere other than trams....mmm

Here's the link for their tram page.

Glendale motors
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deantwerpen



Location: Blackburn, Lancashire, UK

PostSubject: Re: Spanish Occre Tram build   Fri May 01, 2009 7:05 am

carl hibbs wrote:
You should have contacted Gecomodel before they closed.
They made them in resin.
I presume you're after 'CFD metre gauge types' that run on the Baie de la Somme for example

There are an increasing number of people doing laser cutting.
This is becoming more and more accessible and affordable and I too am looking at the cost and vability of a small CO2 laser cutter for thin wood and plastic in the long term future.

There are some small machines around for less than £2000.


Didn't know that Gecomodel had closed.

I can vouch for the usefulness of CNC laser cutters.

Having access to one I've been burning myself a rake of Chemin du fer Secondaire coaches, four wheel with end balconies. I used a plan from Voie Libre and blew it up to 1:20.3



Best

Mr ACME
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